Sunday, September 1, 2024

It's the End of the Food World as We Know It (and Publix Feels Fine)


Food World #715 / Publix #356 / Future Publix #2043
4730 S. Florida Avenue, Lakeland, FL - Lake Miriam Square

Today's post is a presentation of Polk County retail

     Now that the blog is back and I got another former Albertsons location out of my backlog, let's spend some time today looking back at some of the news that broke over the summer while the blog was on break. While Winn-Dixie to Aldi conversions have been one of the hottest topics in the world of Floridian supermarkets of late (and I promise we'll be touching on that soon, and by soon, I mean my next post), I want to spend a little bit of time today discussing more about what Publix was up to this summer. While we lost another Publixsons at the end of July, old #4312 in St. Petersburg, we also lost another historically significant Publix store this summer as well - #356 in Lakeland. As you can probably tell by this store's strange facade, there has to be some kind of backstory to this location, and backstory there is. From what I've been told by others, Publix #356 was the company's flagship location, and as such, was a common place for Publix to test new ideas and concepts due to its close proximity to the corporate headquarters. As for the building itself, the design we see here was a rare prototype of which Publix only built two others like it, a building that was to be a showplace of concepts and ideas for the Publix of the future. That in mind, there's a lot to discuss about Publix #356 and what has transpired surrounding that building over the last 50 years, so let's get right into it and go back in time to the early 1970's, when Publix first began dreaming up this unique store that would be used to shape the Publix of today:

Thank you Sing Oil Blogger for clipping these news articles from newspapers.com for me

     Until the 1970's, the average "modern" supermarket was a roughly 20,000 square foot box with plenty of dry goods and frozen food staples, a butcher, produce, and in some cases a bakery. At least in the Southeastern United States, it was around the 1970's when the concept of a supermarket began to change into what we normally see around town today, when some companies began to push the limits on what grocery stores could sell, and what services they could offer. One of the most revolutionary supermarket concepts to arrive in Florida in the 1970's was Skaggs-Albertsons, bringing to the state 55,000 square foot "monsters" of a store, offering not just groceries, but full service delicatessens and bakeries, in-store pharmacy counters, full liquor stores, and an assortment of general merchandise all under one roof. With the pending arrival of Skaggs-Albertsons to Florida in 1974, a highly-anticipated event following the success of Skaggs-Albertsons' new prototype stores in Texas, Publix may have been growing a bit worried by the impact these large new stores may have on the Floridian supermarket scene. In response, Publix decided to design a "superstore" of their own, a 57,000 square foot showpiece of a store that would be the largest supermarket in Polk County, and one of the largest grocery stores in Florida at the time. As Publix executive Mark Hollis described the new prototype, he said Publix wanted to "create a large store which doesn't seem large to the shopper. We are trying to create the atmosphere of several shopping experiences under one roof." While Publix first dreamed up this "superstore" idea around 1973, probably wanting to time the opening of the new store with the arrival of Albertsons in late 1974, some folks living in the vicinity of the new Publix site weren't so thrilled to be living near this proposed "grocery palace". While Publix received preliminary approval to begin construction on their new South Lakeland store in October 1973, a group of concerned residents decided to take to the courts, and managed to get a judge to file an injunction against Publix, stopping all further work on the project.


     Publix spent almost 3 years in the courts trying to appease the needs of the nearby residents and their concerns over noise, pollution, and drainage. The drainage aspect was the big sticking point in all of this though, as the residents were particularly concerned about stormwater runoff from the new shopping center flowing into an existing pond behind the proposed site and polluting it. They were also concerned about the possibility of Publix filling in parts of the ponds to increase the buildable size of the shopping center, and the possibility of a dam being removed that controlled flow of water between the ponds. After numerous bouts of negotiating, Polk County finally approved Publix's site plan in early 1977, "subject to retention of an impermeable dam between a phosphate pit used for stormwater retention for the proposed development and the adjoining pit area which is used by residents for recreational purposes." Seemingly in the clear following the court's decision, Publix was finally free to build their new store, however, that wasn't the end of all the dam litigation between Publix and the neighbors. In the early 1980's (after the store had already been open for a few years) two nearby residents sued Publix for $2 million in damages in relation to the same dams that Publix thought would put these troubles behind them. The residents claimed in their lawsuit that the dams breached several times since their initial construction, discharging "an immense body of polluted water onto the plaintiff's property and resulted in severe flooding." This suit came after Publix had already settled another claim from different neighbors, Aubrey and Gloria Harper (some of Thelma's angry relatives?), about the same issue. Publix settled with the Harpers for an undisclosed sum, and agreed to purchase the Harper's property so they didn't have to deal with the issues anymore. As for the $2 million suit, a jury later found that Publix was not negligent for the damages caused to the dam, but was liable for the property damages, and awarded the two property owners $1,123 each for their damages. According to this article, Publix had tried to settle with those couples "in excess of $25,000 in cash and property" but they wouldn't take the offer, instead wanting to go before a jury hoping for a settlement closer to their original desired $2 million amount. However, in this case, the quest for greed backfired, but that's how the courts work sometimes. Anyway, at least all the legal troubles were worth it for Publix in the end, as this store ended up being quite the success for the company.


     Even though Publix was haunted by stormwater claims for a number of years after, Publix was at least able to begin construction on their new store in February 1977. While other superstore concepts arriving in Florida at the time were going for an "all under one roof" appeal with pharmacies and general merchandise, Publix took a different approach with their "superstore", focusing solely on food. The new store would feature 57,000 square feet of food with full-service meat, delicatessen, and bakery departments. In addition, the new store would also feature a full-service sit-down delicatessen-style restaurant with 100 seats, where shoppers could also get a sandwich or other meal before or after their shopping trip (possibly one of the first prototype Pub Subs, even though the true "modern" Pub Sub didn't debut until 1992).


Thank you duckman66 for clipping this article on newspapers.com

     In addition to all the fancy food services, the new store would also feature a fully computerized checkout and inventory system - the first of its kind in Florida. Three years after the universal product code (UPC) made its debut in the United States at a Marsh Supermarket in Troy, Ohio, Publix was jumping on board to test out this revolutionary new technology. As defined in the article, the UPC is "the odd, rectangular arrangement of lines that have been appearing on more and more packages." I thought that was an interesting way to define this new technology, and this article does a good job of explaining how the UPC system works, and how people in the 1970's were somewhat hesitant about using them. In addition to all the explanation of how the ne technology worked, the article also shared a quote from Publix's long-time president Joe Blanton about why the new Lake Miriam store was chosen as the tester for this technology. Per Mr. Blanton: "At 57,000 square feet, this is our biggest store, 9,000 square feet bigger than our Tallahassee store and about twice the size of other stores we're building now. We could monitor the system easily in our headquarters city. And we thought it was time residents of Lakeland and East Hillsborough County had a choice of two concepts of supermarkets (Publix and Food World)."


     While all this talk of grandiose new features and higher-end services seems like something right out of a new full-line Publix store in the nice part of town, the new Lake Miriam location the company had been putting together for years wasn't actually opening under the Publix name - this monstrous new prototype was actually to be opened as a Food World. For those of you who may not know, Food World was Publix's discount grocery concept, launched in 1970 in Orlando. Over the next decade Food World was grown to 23 locations primarily clustered around Central Florida and Tampa Bay, the concept peaking in the late 1970's before its ultimate wind-down as the company entered the 1980's. With the economic turbulence in the 1970's, a lot of grocery chains were turning to discount formats to entice shoppers with good deals to stretch their money further, offering limited services in exchange for lower prices. Other grocery chains were operating similar concepts at the time, like A&P's WEO stores, and Jewel's Jewel-T chain, both of which had stints in Florida alongside Food World. Food World was Publix's first ever offshoot brand, notable in memory from its famous rotating storefront globes and very blue interior. Food World stores varied from newbuilds that mimicked Publix's 1970's store design to conversions of older Publix locations, some of which were becoming outdated for the parent brand. So all that being said about Food World, then why was this fancy new prototype chosen to open under that brand instead of the main Publix name?

Food World #715 of Lake Miriam Square shortly after opening, the "store of the future" as one news article proclaimed this building - Photo courtesy of Retro Roadside

     My friends, unfortunately, I don't have a clear answer to that question, as this Food World was very much unlike its other 22 counterparts that opened between 1970 and 1980, the year the last new Food World opened. The Lake Miriam Food World was a high-class operation with service departments, an earth-tone interior decor, a full restaurant, and a classy modern facade that lacked a tacky (although probably really fun to look at) spinning globe. This store looks a supermarket you'd find in an upscale neighborhood, and not something that would be comparable to Winn-Dixie's botched retooling of Harvey's! What's interesting too is that Publix went on to build two more exact copies of this building - one each in Miami and Apopka - which opened in March 1981 and December 1980, respectively, as regular Publix stores and not Food Worlds. After the opening of the Lake Miriam store, the last few Food Worlds to open from 1978-1980 all continued to follow the original pattern of opening in typical 1970's Publix buildings or were conversions of older stores, none of which took anything design-wise from the Lake Miriam store. The best insight I could find on why Publix chose to brand this unusual store as Food World instead of Publix comes from this 1977 article in the Lakeland Ledger, the Ledger's theory as follows: 

     Publix's decision to locate a Food World rather than a regular Publix store at the center has caused considerable comment among both the Lakeland business community and present Publix customers living in the Highlands [the neighborhood behind this store].

     Company officials have not directly commented on their decision, but it is generally believed the decision was based on the fact that Albertson's, another discount food chain, which operates around the clock, seven days a week, will locate at the intersection of Drane Field Road and S. Florida Avenue.

     I have heard stories in the past of how Publix was feeling a bit intimidated by Albertsons and their new concept in the 1970's, and the creation of this store lines up with Albertsons' arrival to Florida, and interestingly enough, with Albertsons' arrival just up the road in Lakeland too. Even if Publix was using the "Food World" name on this store just to make it seem more price-impactful like Albertsons, it was certainly one fancy discount store! It just seems strange to me that this location opened under the Food World name, while its two identical sibling stores in Miami and Apopka, which came about 3 years after this one, both opened under the Publix name instead. Maybe the other two were supposed to open under the Food World name as well, but Publix changed that at the last minute? (The last new Food World opened in 1980, around the time the two additional deluxe prototypes also opened, so the name switch could have been part of the phase out plan). If Food World was on its way out and with these stores being so different, I can see that as a possibility, as the image these stores were trying to present was more from the Publix playbook than Food World's.

     However, a few days before the new Food World was set to open, Joe Blanton went on to explain that "the decision to locate the 250-employee Food World in Lakeland was made because there are already 4 Publix stores here. [The company] is attempting to offer shoppers another shopping alternative by using Food World stores in currently entrenched Publix areas."

     Mr. Blanton's explanation seems like only a partial answer, as this store seemed too grandiose to be an excuse to cram a 5th location in town. While Publix may have wanted a little variety, I think the Lakeland Ledger's speculation about Albertsons coming to Florida may have been a factor too, as why else would Publix suddenly want to try building a superstore? In the same article that quote from Mr. Blanton came from, he did go on to say this too: "While the planned Albertson's store on South Florida Avenue, scheduled to open in February [1978] will most likely capture some of Food World's potential customers, [the company's] research showed there is ample trade to keep both stores busy."

Another view of the Food World storefront - Lakeland Ledger

     Regardless of name games, Food World #715 held its grand opening on November 15, 1977, featuring all the wonderful things I mentioned prior as far as services and amenities are concerned, along with other new amenities such as a "fresh fish and seafood department, a section for plants and flowers, including cut flowers and planting supplies, some apparel items, automotive supplies, and greeting cards". Seems strange thinking about buying clothes at Publix (or Food World, I suppose), but I guess that was a thing for a short period of time! The deli and bakery at the new Food World were also the largest in the Publix family at the time, and the deli would feature the much-touted sit-down restaurant, open all day for breakfast, lunch, and dinner service. Food World #715 continued to hold the title of the largest store in the Publix chain until December 1980, when its identical sibling Publix #227 in Apopka opened, splitting the title.

Wilkor of Lake Miriam Square storefront and interior just prior to opening in September 1977, two months before the neighboring Food World - Lakeland Ledger

     Alongside the new Food World, its co-anchors Eckerd Drug (visible in the 1977 color photo seen prior) and O.G. Wilson catalog showroom also opened around the same time. This store was the first in the Wilson's chain to be branded under the name "Wilkor", a new prototype that blended the traditional catalog method (where you'd fill out a slip to be fulfilled by a warehouse worker who brought your item out from the back) with a salesfloor of merchandise ready-to-purchase. The setup depended on the department, with toys, for example, being self-serve, while departments with pricier merchandise (like jewelry and electronics) followed the traditional catalog method. Overall, this shopping center was a place for lots of new ideas, between the Food World and the Wilkor store!

The original location of the Food World sign has been stuccoed over in the modern day, with the storefront sign moved to a new panel over the entryway.

     Being a testing ground for new ideas, one of the first new concepts to be introduced at the new Food World following its opening included a new "Bank 'N Shop" system, with the Lake Miriam Food World being one of 3 Publix stores in Lakeland to test the new technology. Bank 'N Shop was a special computer system installed at these trial stores where account holders at the Community Bank of Lakeland could make deposits, withdrawals, and loan payments from a special booth containing the Bank 'N Shop computer at any time while the store was open, including weekends. Bank 'N Shop was essentially an elaborate early ATM system, and a precursor to the Publix Presto! ATM that launched in 1982.
    
     As time moved on into the 1980's, Publix became less interested in its Food World stores. The last new Food World to open was the chain's North Lakeland store, Food World #724 at the Lake Gibson Shopping Center. While that linked article mentions another new restaurant prototype at the Lake Gibson store, "Deli World", that building would otherwise be constructed in the vein of a typical Food World, looking identical to a 1970's Publix store in all but name (and Deli World). Much like with Publix's other offshoot brands and concepts from the 2000's (Sabor, Greenwise, etc.), Publix seemed to grow tired of operating two different brands, and going deeper into the 1980's, the Food World stores started to become more like their regular Publix counterparts. By the mid-1980's, Publix decided to close or convert what was left of the Food World chain, and take it as a nice learning experiment for the remainder of the company's stores. By the end of 1985, only 3 Food World stores were left - the 3 Polk County locations (including the two in Lakeland, and another store in Auburndale). The 3 Polk County Food World stores lasted until 1988, at which point those remaining locations were folded into the parent brand as well, transitioning Food World #715 at Lake Miriam Square into Publix #356.

A grainy look at the site plan submitted to the City of Lakeland by Publix for the expansion of Lake Miriam Square in 1999.

     I'm not sure just how thorough Publix was with remodels when converting the remaining Food World stores into regular locations, so the decor lineage of this particular building gets a little murky for the span following the end of Food World's time and the early 2000's. Being a busy store, I can see it getting remodeled right away to Publix's late 1980's decor and then to Wavy Pastel sometime in the 1990's, but I don't know if one of those packages may have been skipped here. I do know that in 1999, Publix applied for and was granted a land use change for the empty parcels abutting the shopping center facing Lake Miriam Drive, paving the way for commercial development on the south side of the shopping center. It was rumored at the time that Publix was interested in bringing an entertainment venue to the property (such as a movie theater), however Publix later confirmed they wanted to extend the shopping center southward by demolishing the existing east-west wing of Lake Miriam Square and rebuilding it further south, and extending the north-south portion of the center (where the Publix was located) to meet the new section. At the time, while Publix was doing brisk business, the remainder of the shopping center was struggling with occupancy rates, so Publix hoped this overhaul would bring business back to the center. In addition to those already mentioned improvements, as part of this plan, Publix would also remodel their store, reconfigure the parking lot, and add another entrance to the shopping center from Lake Miriam Drive, a feature that Publix had initially been blocked from constructing at the beginning due to the original legal battles with the residents living off that road.


     However, after hearing of Publix's new plans for Lake Miriam Square in 1999, a new generation of residents living along Lake Miriam Drive took issue with Publix's revised ideas for the future of the shopping center. Due to the renewed discontent from the nearby residents, Publix laid low on their new plans until 2001, when the company tried to get its rezoning for the neighboring parcels, the last road block before the redevelopment project could begin. Unlike the issues the residents presented the first time around in the 1970's, which had to do with runoff and the ponds behind the store, the issues the nearby residents began bringing up in the early 2000's were all traffic related, especially in relation to the proposed new entrance along Lake Miriam Drive. At the initial hearing on the rezoning, Lake Miriam residents went on for over an hour at the zoning meeting about why the change should be denied. After another bout of protest with the nearby residents, Publix officially came out on top following a May 2002 city council meeting, where the council approved Publix's rezoning request and the new entrance along Lake Miriam Drive, which would include a new traffic light paid for by Publix. While Publix got their new entrance, their plans to expand the shopping center never came to fruition though, with the original center still standing today (minus a small piece removed to allow for the new Lake Miriam Drive entrance). However, with all the trouble Publix had gone through in relation to this store through the years, the partial victory of getting the new entrance was certainly a success!


     Even though Publix's plans for the renovations to the shopping center were approved by the Lakeland city council in 2002, construction did not begin until late 2004. It was at that time construction on the new entrance to Lake Miriam Drive commenced, as well as the interior remodel of the Publix store to Classy Market 1.0. While the entire interior of the store was updated at that time, the Classy Market 1.0 remodel of this location was notable as that was when this store's pharmacy was added. Prior to the Classy Market 1.0 remodel, the Lake Miriam Publix also piloted a new coffee service program in 2001, alongside a store in Tampa and 12 locations in Atlanta. The early 2000's also brought another pilot program to the Lake Miriam Publix - a Chinese Cuisine counter - which was a rare feature we'll discuss in more detail later.


     With all the remodeling and rebranding seen through the years here at Lake Miriam Square, the exterior of this building has seen its fair share of remodeling too. Prior to its opening as a Food World, The Lakeland Ledger described the architecture of the shopping center as being "basically Spanish with red barell tile roof and rough wood exterior trim". While a lot of what was described in that statement has since been stuccoed over, if you compare my pictures from recent times to the ones from the early Food World days, the building still retains much of the same design with the many pillars across the front and the airy walkway, just with a relocated front sign and a bit more stucco.


     After holding onto the Classy Market 1.0 decor for roughly 7 years, Publix #356 received its next remodel in 2011, becoming one of the first few Publix stores in the chain to remodel to the then-new Sienna/Classy Market 3.0 decor, the "premium" decor package Publix was rolling out at the time. This store received an extensive Sienna/Classy Market 3.0 remodel in 2011, followed by a deluxe "Sienna refresh" remodel around 2019, where a few odd additions to the existing Sienna decor were made. The vast majority of the photos you'll be seeing in today's tour came from my original 2017 visit to Publix #356, where we'll be seeing the store with its original version of Sienna. I revisited this store two times after that, both in 2024, where I tried to capture some of the changes from the 2019 refresh, and we'll see those more recent photos sprinkled in throughout this tour.


     As you'd expect from a high-volume deluxe prototype Publix, this was one of the handful of Publix stores that had an Aprons Cooking School until July 2023, when Publix retired the concept chain-wide. The Lake Miriam cooking school appears to have been added around the time of this store's remodel to Classy Market 1.0 in late 2004, opening in an adjacent storefront to the main Publix building in a slice of the former Eckerd store.


     With the vast majority of this store's backstory out of the way now, if I haven't put you to sleep yet, we'll press on with our tour of the building itself. Having seen much of the exterior through the backstory, we've now finally made it to the store's front walkway, an open and airy space with a wide sidewalk behind the tall pillars. The right half of the storefront contained a number of windows too, bringing a lot of natural light into the store's vestibule as well as the old restaurant space.


     Following the conversion of the Greenwise 2.0 store across the street into a regular Publix in early 2024, word began to circulate that once the renovations over there were completed, Publix was interested in replacing the aging store #356 shortly after. At the time of its demise, Publix #356 was the oldest Publix store left in Lakeland, dating back to the 1970's, and outliving a number of 1980's and early 1990's builds around town too. I'm a bit surprised Publix kept this store around for as long as they did, actually, considering its unusual design and flagship status in the chain. After word began circulating that this store would soon be meeting its demise, I revisited Publix #356 in February 2024 and took a few more pictures, although a closing date for this store had not been set at that time. Fast forward to June 2024, and I happened to be in Lakeland again, not too far from store #356. Being in the area, I figured I'd stop by again and take another walk around the place, knowing its days were numbered. What I did not know going into my June 2024 visit to #356 was that a closure date had already been selected for this store - July 6, 2024 - just a little over a week out from the day I happened to stop by here. Walking up to the store that day I was greeted by these signs wrapped around the bollards out front...


     …with matching posters taped to the front windows too. (And I still find it funny how Publix can casually direct shoppers to the store "across the street" on their poster while this one is closed for remodeling - how many other grocers have that luxury?!).


     The timing of my June 2024 trip couldn't have worked out any better, as I wanted to make a final visit to this store to clean up my photos one last time, having realized a little more about some of the unique features this store received in its 2019 Sienna refresh. Anyway, let's head inside and take a look at the vestibule, where we'll see one of the first odd changes from that refresh:


     Stepping into the vestibule in 2017, we were greeted, as usual, by our friends the green beans (and some older style Publix carts, too). However, a few years later, those green beans (and the old carts) were out...


     …and grapes were in! As far as I'm aware, this was the only Publix to feature the "welcome grapes", with an elaborate two-panel installation for the grape photo too.


     The bright afternoon sunlight was not helping me any with getting a decent photo of the grapes without a lot of glare, but in this photo you can see the grapes of the glare's wrath much more clearly.


     Just inside the front doors on my June 2024 visit was this large artist's rendering of #356's replacement, store #2043. Publix #2043 will be a 62U model, which is a 63,000 square foot design that will be based off the typical 55M template. The 55M is Publix's current deluxe prototype, which debuted in Tampa in 2023 and can be seen here. The new Lake Miriam Publix will be almost identical to that Tampa location as far as features and layout are concerned (per this article, and what the barista at the Greenwise across the street told me), however, the Lake Miriam store will be 8,000 square feet larger (hence why this store was labeled as a "62U" on construction plans instead of a "55M" like its typical counterparts would be). In addition to the main store, a liquor store will also be added to Publix #2043, replacing the liquor store at the former Greenwise location across the street. Why the move for the liquor store? Well, that has to do with local liquor laws. The former Greenwise store across the street is located in unincorporated Polk County, which does not allow the sale of hard liquor on Sundays. Lake Miriam Square is located within the limits of the City of Lakeland, which does allow the sale of hard liquor on Sundays. That addition of a day of liquor sales prompted the move, now that Publix has the space to add a liquor store at Lake Miriam Square.


     That easel we just saw was located in front of the hallway that led into the former Aprons Cooking School, which we can see here in 2017 when it was still operational (although a class was not in session at the time of my visit, which is why it looks closed here). While the cooking school was located in a piece of the former Eckerd next door, it was only accessible through the door seen here, located behind the catering counter next to the main entrance.

Photo courtesy of Wesley H. on Google

     In case you were curious to see what the inside of the cooking school looked like when it was operational, here's a photo I found of it on Google. I never took one of Publix's cooking classes myself, but the Sing Oil Blogger extensively documented one of his experiences taking a Publix cooking class at the Alpharetta, GA cooking school, which you can read more about here.


     Returning our attention to the main salesfloor, this is what you would see after stepping through the front doors and looking straight ahead. Entering this store, you're dropped off at the end of aisle 1, which resided just past Publix's BOGO bin land right inside the entrance. The customer service desk was located in an island just out of frame to my left, which we'll see in more detail in a little bit.


     Like a typical Publix from the late 1970's, aisle 1 is home to the dairy department, which lines the store's right wall. Additional dairy products were located in coolers to the left too, making this aisle the home to all things dairy in this store.

Photo courtesy of AxlCobainVedder on Reddit

     However, upon this store's opening as a Food World in 1977, dairy would have only been located along the wall toward the back of the aisle and wrapping around the corner, as the front of the aisle and the shelf to my left was home to juices (including prune juice, which got its own placard too! Prune juice would certainly not get that much prominence in a modern supermarket!). The interior photo above, shared to Reddit a few years back, actually shows the first aisle and interior of Publix #223 in Miami, however, Food World #715 in Lakeland would have looked identical to that after it opened too. I was excited when I first found this photo, as it's the only interior photo I've ever seen of one of these Publix "superstore" prototypes, and it's in living color too! Even into 2024, Publix #356 still kept the stair step design of the ceiling transition along the wall, and the same lower ceiling over the center store too. Sadly, the hanging box lights and wood paneling were decidedly too 1970's to keep into the present day, but the store's Deluxe Sienna decor does keep alive the very 1970's earth tone feel from that photo!


     Here's one last look at the dairy aisle, looking back toward the front of the store, before we see what's going on in the back right corner of the building in the present...

Photo courtesy of Foursquare

     …well, the relative present, anyway. Following this store's remodel to Classy Market 1.0 in late 2004/early 2005, the back right corner of the building was transformed into the store's pharmacy department. The meat and dairy coolers that were once located in this corner were shifted to either side, with dairy now comprising all of aisle 1, and meat further down on the back wall. Courtesy of a really old photo posted to Foursquare, we can get a glimpse of what the pharmacy (and the back wall of this store) looked like in the Classy Market 1.0 days.


     The pharmacy counter itself was built against the side of the meat prep area, with the back right corner carved out for a small alcove to house the pharmaceutical items. When this store remodeled to Sienna/Classy Market 3.0 in 2011, the bones of the CM 1.0-era pharmacy were left behind, with the department getting redone in the deluxe Sienna pharmacy styling with the glass tile trim and the layered ceilings.


     Here's a look into the alcove housing the pharmaceuticals and health & beauty products. In addition to this alcove, one of the main grocery aisles (aisle 5) was used to store the remaining health & beauty items that did not fit back here.


     In the alcove, here's a look back toward the pharmacy counter, looking across the store's back wall. While there was nothing wrong with this store's pharmacy, being a perfectly spec Sienna-style pharmacy counter in design (other than being in the back corner of the building, which is an odd placement for a Publix pharmacy - Publix always places the pharmacies near the front of the store), Publix decided to make a rather significant change back here during the 2019 Sienna refresh:


     …with the pharmacy counter and the alcove switching places in 2019! The reversed placement of the pharmacy and the alcove really threw me off when I came back here for the first time in 2024, as I thought I was remembering things wrong until I reviewed my 2017 photos when I got home. It appears the pharmacy flip had something to do with the addition of a BayCare Walk-In Clinic to this store, with this store receiving a large waiting area and examination room for the service, which can be seen at that link. I don't know how other grocery stores with walk-in clinics operate, but Publix's clinics are partnerships with local hospitals, and as such, are only available in select areas (with BayCare being a Tampa Bay-area partnership). Publix doesn't keep any doctors on staff, and the doctor you see in one of these clinics is part of the BayCare staff, who appears remotely on the screen of a large machine inside the examination room, like a fancy tele-doctor visit.


     Turning away from the new pharmacy counter, here's a look at the new health & beauty alcove, which now abuts the meat department. The new alcove seemed much darker and cramped compared to the previous one, and the lower ceiling seems to drive that feeling. Additionally, Publix's clearance rack also decided to crash the photo too!


     Leaving the pharmacy, we enter aisle 2, home to the international foods and canned goods.


     Returning to the front of the store, here's a (partially obstructed) look at the customer service island.


     My guess is the customer service desk was originally located in the front right corner where the catering desk/former cooking school entrance were, as that's how the similarly designed Publix #223 is still set up today. The service desk was most likely moved to its current location during the Classy Market 1.0 remodel, as service islands first made their debut during that era (and the move would correlate with the addition of the cooking school entrance in that corner too).


     Above the catering desk and the cooking school entrance was a mezzanine level, home to the store's breakroom (you can see the window at the top left of the picture). Publix 1970's/early 1980's stores usually had a mezzanine breakroom in that spot as well, along with a set of restrooms (like this store does).


     Here's a quick look across this store's front end, which has a number of quirks we'll talk about more later in this post. However, as you can tell by the above image (and probably a number of the ones you saw already), this is a crazy busy store. All 3 of my trips to this store happened on weekend afternoons (once on a Sunday, and twice on Saturdays), and this place was mobbed each of those times. While weekend afternoons are prime grocery shopping time, this place was really drawing everybody in - if you look closely, it appears all the registers are open, with lines, including at the self-checkouts!


     We'll escape the mob of people at the front end and dodge down this oddly quiet grocery aisle, where I'd like everyone to take notice of the floors.


     As you've probably noticed by now, even though this store was built as a high-end prototype and acts as a flagship location for Publix in a number of ways, it lacks one of Publix's most famous store-design features - terrazzo floors! Throughout this store, you'll see Publix's 1990's tile pattern, the gray and white Tetris pattern reserved for converted Publix locations and really old stores with beat up terrazzo or additions. That being said, this flooring was most likely installed whenever this store received its 1990's-era remodel, replacing the original floor tiling this store was built with. If you look closely at the 1970's interior photo from the identical Miami location posted earlier, it appears this store was built with a tile floor instead of terrazzo, featuring an avocado green stripe along the perimeter, transitioning into some white/off-white tiles going into the salesfloor. As much as Kmart liked to think otherwise, avocado green floors had outlived their welcome by the 1990's, so Publix came through and swapped that original flooring out (if they hadn't already when this store converted back into a regular Publix). The gray tiles pair well with the dark ceilings and the earth tones of Sienna/Classy Market 3.0, so these 30-year-old tiles didn't show their age as much as avocado green would have!


     Returning to the back wall, we have a closer look at the meat coolers here, followed by the seafood service counter further down near produce.


      Comparing the above photo with the photo prior, you'll also notice another one of Publix's changes from the 2019 Sienna refresh - the aisle markers were swapped out. Early Sienna stores received the aisle markers we've been seeing in my 2017 photos, which look like the same aisle markers from Classy Market 2.0, just with CM 2.0's round numbers swapped out in favor of Sienna's wood-grain rectangle numbers (which look out of place). In 2019, the more common dark green Sienna aisle markers were installed, which look much better in this store compared to the originals!


     Aisle 8 was home to beer and wine during my 2017 visit, however, the potent grapes were stripped away from their barley-based companion in the 2019 refresh. During the refresh, wine and greeting cards/party supplies swapped places, with wine getting a much more prominent placement in the grand aisle between produce and the bakery following that change.


     Following the beer and former home of wine, we enter the frozen foods aisles, aisles number 9 and 10.


     The lower ceiling over the grocery aisles raises again over the two frozen food aisles, making these aisles stand out from the rest.

Photo courtesy of Foursquare

     In addition to the Classy Market 1.0-era photo from the pharmacy, one other photo from that era was floating around on Foursquare, that being this one of the frozen foods aisles. As you can see, the freezers had the Sienna mustard yellow trim installed during the 2011 remodel, otherwise, all the coolers appear to remain the same. Also, doesn't this store look so much better with the ceiling tiles painted brown, as we've been seeing in my photos? While I'm not typically a fan of dark stores (a feeling you'd think a brown ceiling would create), I thought the brown ceiling really made this store come across as much classier without hurting the overall brightness levels, while the all-white ceilings just made this store feel old.


     The left side of the store is home to the grand aisle, which we can see the beginning of in the photo above. When this store was first built as a Food World, the deli department was placed prominently at the front (unlike other Publix stores from this era, where the delis were placed in the back of the building). The deli was one of the most grandiose features in this store when it opened, with its wide selection of foods and full-service sit-down restaurant next door (which has now been reduced into a little seating area).

The deli sign lights up too!

     Over the years, this store's deli department was toned down to feature the standard Publix deli fare, all while getting to keep its large, prominent space at the front of the store. Since this store was a high-volume flagship with a little extra room in the deli to spare, Publix did add a very unique feature to this store, a feature that was the product of a collaboration effort in the early 2000's which remained in service until this store's closure in 2024 - a Chinese Cuisine counter:


     What's interesting about Publix's Chinese Cuisine counter is that it began as a tenant-run service operating out of the deli area. In the early 2000's, Publix partnered with the owner of the popular Lakeland Square Mall food court restaurant China Max to open Chinese Cuisine counters in select Publix locations. The owner of China Max, Robert Lee, managed to grow his partnership with Publix to 10 Chinese Cuisine counters located throughout Florida and Tennessee, following the launch of the new concept right here at the Lake Miriam Square store. You can read more about Robert Lee and his partnership with Publix in this Lakeland Ledger article from 2004, where Mr. Lee described the upcoming launch of his signature bourbon chicken sauce at Publix, alongside his other ventures inside and outside of Publix.


      At some point Mr. Lee's partnership with Publix ended, with Publix taking over full control of the Chinese Cuisine counters as a subsidiary of the deli department, with deli employees doing the cooking and staffing for this counter. Outside of adding self-service Chinese food bars in the company's 56M prototype stores from the early/mid-2010's, it doesn't appear Publix expanded these full-service Chinese Cuisine counters following the end of the company's partnership with Mr. Lee. I don't know the locations of the other 9 Chinese cuisine counters or their fates, however, the counter here continued operation until this store closed for good on July 6, 2024. In reading comments on other websites about this store's closure, a lot of people were particularly upset about losing the Chinese food counter here, as this was the only Publix in the area with one (and the food was quite good too - we may be revisiting the topic of this store's Chinese food offerings before we wrap up this post). This store's replacement will have a deluxe prepared foods department based off what Greenwise 2.0 pioneered, with a pizza and pasta station, a burrito bar, and a sushi island, but no word on if the Chinese Cuisine selection will reappear in some form.


     Now that I've made everyone hungry talking about Chinese food, we'll throw the hunger pains to the pets in the room as we take a look down aisle 12, home of pet supplies (as well as hardware).


     Leaving aisle 12, here's a look at what we've covered so far along this store's back wall, looking back toward the meat coolers.


     Turning the other way, we find ourselves approaching the Seafood counter as we near the back left corner of the store.


     While I'm sure Publix has sold fish and other seafood since the company's earliest days in a variety of pre-packaged forms, from what I read in this store's grand opening articles from 1977, this may have been the first store in the Publix chain to feature a dedicated full-service Seafood counter like this, separate from the main butcher operation.


     The wall behind the Seafood counter had a fancy blue tile installed on it, which mimics the look of water, which I thought made for a nice (and appropriate) design. The sushi counter also appears to have been a product of the 2019 Sienna refresh as well, as I don't see the sign for it in my 2017 photo of the Seafood counter.


     Returning to the grocery aisles, the last few before we enter the grand aisle are home to non-food items, such as the cleaning supplies here in aisle 13...


     …followed by paper products in aisle 14.


     Leaving aisle 14, we'll turn the corner and enter the grand aisle from the back, beginning with this look into the store's back left corner, where we find the produce department.


     Much like a normal 1970's Publix store, produce is located in the back left corner of the building. However, unlike a normal 1970's Publix store, produce rounds out the "grand aisle" rather than being stuffed in a little alcove behind frozen foods, making for a showier presentation and more open feel of this department.


     With how much space this store's produce department occupied, two produce signs were attached to the left wall over the coolers, on the center of the stair-step pattern that wraps around the perimeter of the store.


     During the 2019 refresh, Publix decided to break up the blank-ness of the left wall and added a large photo of oranges between the two produce signs, appropriate enough for a supermarket in Florida! Typically, Sienna/Classy Market 3.0 included a close-up photo of an artichoke to compliment the produce decor, with this store being the only one I've ever seen with the picture of oranges instead. The only bad thing about the photo of the oranges is that it blends in with the orange paint on the walls, although the green artichoke photo can produce similar results when paired with Sienna's traditional brown and green color scheme used for produce.


     From produce, here's a look toward the front of the grand aisle where we find the bakery, and in front of that (in 2017), the greeting cards and party supplies.


    By the time of my 2024 visits, wine had made its move to the former greeting card space, with greeting cards being moved over to aisle 8 where the wine was formerly located. Unfortunately, while I managed to pick up on most of the changes this store received between my 2017 and 2024 visits, I didn't realize that wine had moved! The main reason I took the photo above was to showcase the fancy wine chilling machine, a feature typically reserved for high-end Publix locations. Had I known about wine's move, I would have taken a better overview photo of this area as it appeared near the store's end. Thankfully though, some other folks on Google have my back, and you can see a few more overviews of the relocated wine department here, here, and here.


     Floral was located between the bakery and produce along the left wall, with a decent amount of space for the department to spread its roots into the salesfloor a bit.


     In addition to the floral department's standard cut flower fare, turning to the left from where we just looked, we also see this store's floral department was home to a large display of live plants too, another rare Publix feature. Somewhere behind all of that foliage is the store's bakery, so if you give me a moment to take out my machete and cut back some of that overgrowth...


     …the jungle yields itself for this view of the bakery counter. While this store's bakery wasn't anything out of the ordinary in the present as far as selection was concerned (outside of having a bakery hot case installed during the 2019 refresh, which featured a selection of Hispanic foods like papas rellenas and empanadas that's hard to find outside of the South Florida Publix stores), the bakery in this store felt really big. One of the main attractions to this store when it first opened as a Food World was its large bakery, and even after having modifications made through the years (like the Sienna-era rounded lower ceiling and new floor tiles), this department kept its original large space.

Photo courtesy of Foursquare

     For fun, here's a photo from Foursquare dug up by the Sing Oil Blogger showing what this store's bakery looked like shortly after its Sienna/Classy Market 3.0 remodel concluded in 2011. Even prior to this store's refresh in 2019, the bakery cases were swapped out at some point between 2011 and 2017, as you'll see in my photo the bread racks to the left of the counter were moved to be in front of the new display cases, with a new graphic installed on the wall where the old racks were removed.


     Leaving the bakery, we'll take a quick peek past the deli for a look across this store's large front end.


     While quite open and spacious, the front end wasn't excessively spaced out like we've seen at some of the Publixsons stores featured on the blog in the past. This area was wide enough to handle the crowds this store pulled without jamming the main actionway and blocking people trying to shop.


     And like I said before, this store was packed every time I visited! On my first visit in 2017, it appears every one of the store's 8 staffed lanes was open, with a line at the bank of 4 self-checkouts too. Due to all the lanes being open, every one of my attempts to get a picture of the oddly-designed light cubes didn't work, with the lights glaring out the original design. While the original Sienna/Classy Market 3.0 cubes this store got were different than what we'd come to associate with that decor package, they weren't anything too overly funky (unlike these early prototype CM 2.5 lights). In the 2019 Sienna Refresh this store received, the original light cubes were swapped out for the standard late-Sienna designs with the slogans (like "Checkout to Smile About") on the sides, which you can see a few photos back.


     The front end of this store was also strange as it had the staffed check lanes double-stacked, much like you see at most non-super Target stores. Odd-numbered check lanes were in the front, while the even numbers were in the back. The only other Publix stores I've ever seen with a stacked check lane set-up similar to this were the Greenwise 1.0 stores - even the similarly designed Publix #227 in Apopka has the traditional single row of check lanes along its front end, however, #223 in Miami has the double-stack set-up like this store, as it also received a similar Deluxe Sienna remodel in the early 2010's.


     Following the staffed express lanes, the self-checkouts (as well as the Sienna apple) begin to come into view.


     In my above photo from 2017, here's a look at this store's 4 self-checkout stations. While many of you (especially those who are familiar with Publix outside of Florida) might not think anything of the scene in the photo above, seeing self-checkouts at a Florida Publix store in 2017 was an amazingly rare sight. While Publix had been using self-checkout in stores outside of Florida since the late 2000's, Publix held off on installing self-checkouts at most of its Florida locations until 2018 or so, when they started to appear in newbuilds and subsequent store remodels. Publix #356 may have been the first Florida Publix to install self-checkout, and considering the prototypical nature of this store, it would make sense if that was the case.


     Since I had never seen self-checkouts in a Publix before this day, I of course had to experience the novelty of using one of these units (not knowing that roughly a year later, more stores would start getting them). Eventually the lane on the back left side of the self-checkout bank opened up, and off I went:


     Publix stores these days use the typical NCR self-checkout stations a lot of other stores have (such as Winn-Dixie), but the ones here were big old Fujitsu units, which Publix rolled out to the first few Florida locations to introduce self-checkout in the late 2010's. This photo a few back, showing the front end during my 2024 visit, shows the light poles for the modern NCR units, meaning these lanes were updated at some point - possibly in the 2019 refresh. (And in case you were curious, on my two 2024 visits, I used the regular staffed lanes for my purchases here - you don't get good gossip about the fate of this store from a self-checkout machine!)


     Now that we've made our purchases, here's a look behind the check lanes at the seating area, which is the former home of the in-store restaurant. After the restaurant was closed the front end appears to have taken over a lot of this space, although I don't know what else may have been up here in the time between the restaurant's closure (which presumably occurred when this store transitioned away from the Food World name) and the Deluxe Sienna/Classy Market 3.0 remodel.

     However, even if this area isn't a full sit-down restaurant operation anymore, this seating area does provide ample space for eating a quick lunch picked up from the deli, which is what I did during my final visit to this store:


     Knowing my June 2024 visit would be my last to this store, I decided to try the food from the Chinese Cuisine counter. Knowing that was a unique feature to this store which may not reappear at the new location, I had to give it a try, and I was not disappointed. While you could by the various items at the counter a la carte per pound, I opted for the "Dinner #1" option, which included a choice of entree (I chose the chicken and green beans), lo mein or fried rice (I picked the lo mein), an egg roll (not pictured) and a fortune cookie. For $10, this was a lot of food! It was good too, and not really salty like some Chinese food can be. After trying this, I can see why so many people are concerned the Chinese food will not reappear in the new store!


     After eating my fill of chicken and noodles, along with the egg roll, it was time to open the fortune cookie. According to the wise musings of that pastry, it told me that "A lifetime of fulfilling goals is within your grasp". I don't know what the cookie was hinting at, unless it was taunting me about having never made it to my last Florida Peninsula Albertsons store in Homestead yet, but maybe I shouldn't over think the advice a cookie was trying to give me, especially since the lucky numbers on the back of this fortune didn't fulfill that goal of mine either!


     After finishing my lunch, I took a moment to take in Publix #356 for the last time from my table in the seating area, thinking about the fortune cookie's prophecy how everything here will look so different in just over a year. Eventually though, the time came to walk out those doors and back into the parking lot, where we'll go to finish off this post:


     Back outside on the front walkway, here's a look toward the store's entrance, partially obstructed by the rack of ran jackets used by the store's cart collectors.


     Turning the other way, here's a look toward the left side of the building. The dining area was located behind those windows to my right, with the wall ahead of me backing a service corridor that ran behind the deli and bakery.


     Publix #356 was a unique store with a unique history, and it will be interesting to see if its replacement, Publix #2043, will continue this store's legacy as the company flagship. Being slightly larger than a typical 55M, I wonder if store #2043 may have a few surprises to offer when it opens, such as new prototype features that expand upon the typical 55M's offerings. #2043 will be one to watch when it opens, as its proximity to corporate could lend itself some interesting features.


     At long last, we have made it to the end of this lengthy post. I was actually dreading writing this post for a long time knowing the backstory of this location was pretty involved, but its closure was enough to finally spark my motivation to get this store out of my backlog. I hope you didn't mind the information overload I presented to you today, but I think this unique Publix was worthy of all that detail!

    Anyway, since we've talked a lot about Publix these last few posts, we'll shift gears to all the madness that's been rolling out of Winn-Dixie recently. Next time on AFB we'll tour a unique Winn-Dixie that ended up becoming one of Aldi's earliest picks as a conversion candidate. While this Winn-Dixie wasn't super exciting in its last few years open, prior to its Winn Win remodel, it was a real oddball with a rare decor package inside. We'll talk about that more next time, and after that post, hopefully we'll get to talk about another former Albertsons store before long!

So until the next post,

The Albertsons Florida Blogger

P.S. - If you want to see some post-closure photos of this store, check out these links here and here.

29 comments:

  1. Anonymous in HoustonSeptember 1, 2024 at 1:33 AM

    Hey, is that the Fort Pierce Kmart? If so, I certainly wasn't expecting to see that here!

    Given some of the recent Publix posts you and Sing Oil have done recently, I've been left thinking that I'd rather have shopped at the Fort Pierce Kmart than a Publix. Yeah, the Fort Pierce Kmart was terrible, but maybe I'd find Randall's trinkets around the store like you did! At least the hope of Randall's treasures gets me more excited than nEvergreen!

    All of this said, now this is a Publix! Or maybe I should say that this was a Publix. Or a Food World at least! The stories of the legal battles Publix had to go through before and after this store was built seems more fitting in a Florida Albertsons post, but I suppose even St. Publix has had their battles over the years. Unlike with most Albertsons locations with battles, where the battles seemed hardly worth the effort given the failures of the stores, that seems to not be the case here. The Harpers might not agree though. I wonder if they are cousins of Eunice (Harper) Higgins, Mama's daughter who moved to Florida?

    I'm as bamboozled as you are as to why this fancy store opened as a Food World rather than a Publix. The only thing I can think of, aside from them fearing Albertsons (doesn't that seem improbable!), is that maybe this store was just too different from a traditional Publix and that made Publix nervous. Would the publix, err, public accept a Publix without a terrazzo floor? Would they accept such a large store? Would the customers like this store so much that they would demand all other Publixes be like this large and expensive store? Presumably Publix wasn't in a position to render all of their existing stores obsolete at that point.

    In some ways, maybe GreenunWise was also used as a litmus test to see what concepts the publix would accept before turning those stores into regular Publix stores (or not). Well, anyway, unlike GreenunWise, this Publix looks...looked beautiful! It wasn't as nice as it was in the 1970s, but I guess that is to be expected. Otherwise, the store retains a very nice drop ceiling design with interesting lights (too bad your camera didn't like photographing those lights, not unlike the register cubes) and this Publix actually hides pipes/tubing behind the walls. What a concept. The colors and general vibe remind me a bit of a cross between Safeway Lifestyle v2, a nicer implementation of it at least, and Colorful Lifestyle v2. Of course, with all these nice features, it is to be expected that Publix would close this store!

    As nice as this Publix is, I wouldn't have minded if this was really a long post about Wilkor! I wonder why O.G. Wilson didn't use that name more. It would have saved the trouble of differentiating themselves of H.J. Wilson! The mixture of self-serve departments and traditional catalog showroom departments reminds me of what Best Products did in the 1980s and Service Merchandise a bit later on, if I remember correctly.

    On the topic of Spanish style Florida retail, this time of relevance to Houston, I have some unfortunate news. I drove by Office Depot #12 the other day and saw the yellow banner of doom on it. This was the first Office Depot in Houston and likely one of the very first Office Depots out of Florida, hence the very low store number. It is in an old Safeway with Spanish architecture. The store still has a 1970s Safeway diamond sign frame, but the sign itself was blown out in a storm in 2023 and it was never fixed. I guess it won't be fixed now, sadly. RIP, Office Depot #12 and Publix #356. Link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/TuZvtKVqiDiN9Gdt9

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    1. Anonymous in HoustonSeptember 1, 2024 at 1:51 AM

      Oh, I forgot to comment on the Chinese food! We have a China Max in some malls here in Houston as well. In fact, my local mall, Willowbrook Mall, has one. At least I'm pretty sure they do. I wonder if it is the same China Max as the Publix one. I did see the same China Max that we have here in Albany, NY at Crossgates Mall. Crossgates Mall, and Willowbrook Mall here in Houston, also have Kelly's Cajun Grills. What I saw at Crossgates was truly surprising though!

      The Crossgates China Max had the overly aggressive free samples lady just like the Willowbrook China Max. Well, presumably it isn't the same woman who is handing out free samples in both Albany, NY and Houston at the same time, but they both must have attended the same course at China Max University. Strangely enough, I noticed that the Kelly's Cajun place at Crossgates, on the other side of the large food court, also had an aggressive free samples lady...also one who appeared to graduate from China Max University given the peddling tactics. I looked closer and the Kelly's woman was sampling Chinese food! Is it possible that China Max invaded Kelly's space and was trying to steal their customers with free samples?

      Well, not quite, because I looked at the Kelly's storefront and it looked exactly the same as China Max's! Even the LCD menu boards were the same...and they had the same items on it! Yes, the Kelly's Cajun place only sold Chinese food! Now, maybe Upstate New Yorkers could be fooled into thinking that General Tso's chicken is a Cajun dish, but I don't think that would work so well here in Houston! Florida is a little more debatable given how many Floridians are actually people from Upstate New York, or somewhere nearby, lol. Fortunately, Crossgates did have some authentic Cajun food, Popeyes. I ended up eating at Popeyes during one of my two visits to the Crossgates food court.

      That fortune cookie fortune is in Albertsons colors. It's your fortune! Then again, maybe Albertsons executives were guided, or misguided, by a similar fortune back when they were expanding with reckless abandon back in the 1990s and 2000s! Who knows, maybe even Publix purposely planted that fortune in Albertsons' executive fortune cookies to try to get them out of Florida! It could have happened given the hoops Publix jumped through to get this Food World open!

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    2. I didn't realize that Publix once had other banner outside of Sabor and the two Greenwise iterations before this post. Quite a few other grocery stores elsewhere are seemingly able to open other banners to cater to specific crowds. But I guess it doesn't bode well for Publix or Winn-Dixie for that matter. They end up closing them and taking what worked into their regular stores. Publix tried to do the gas station thing, but that didn't go anywhere. They were WAY too early to market with online fulfillment (c. 2002), and it flopped only to end up being Instacart's largest client by 2019. (I don't know how COVID changed that ranking when reluctant stores were forced online.) Then there are in-store features like the butcher counters. They no longer exist in the fancy-neighborhood Orlando stores like Dr. Phillips, Winter Park, etc. They flipped their 1990s(?)-era flagship Orange Ave store in Orlando in anticipation of Lucky's Market, building a large meat case and cold prepared foods case only to take them away within a year or so of Lucky's closing. And to think they even had a full-scale restaurant in the 1970s! Then there was the standalone Crispers restaurant they bought and then divested, which I wish they integrated into their stores.

      That's why I get frustrated with people who move here and talk about how much better the stores where they come from are compared to Publix. But Publix has tried some of those things they brag about having in their previous locales, and the market here--whether through Publix's experiments or through new competitors like Earth Fare and Lucky's Market--didn't support it.

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    3. "That's why I get frustrated with people who move here and talk about how much better the stores where they come from are compared to Publix."

      Fan, does it really happen often that people move to Florida and pine for other supermarkets other than Publix? If so, which stores are people pining for?

      There is a perception here in Texas that everyone here loves HEB, but I can tell you that simply isn't true. It isn't just the retail enthusiasts who hate HEB (though we generally do, certainly I do). They have their critics in the general publix, err, public as well, especially in places like San Antonio where they have a monopoly on traditional supermarkets. With that, I know better than to think that all Floridians love Publix as is sometimes perceived. Given that this is the Albertsons Florida Blog, I suppose we can assume that while AFB might think that shopping is a pleasure at Publix, Albertsons was truly his store!

      I made an earlier comment about Upstate New Yorkers and I can see Wegmans fans complaining about Publix as the perception is Wegmans are larger and cheaper than Publix even though Wegmans are generally in higher cost-of-living locations. Wegmans, like Publix, HEB, and Market Basket, are cult supermarkets so there is that factor as well, of course. Even though I've been in places with Wegmans, including Boston just last month, I have yet to go to a Wegmans. When I was in Niagara Falls, NY in 2011, I prioritized going to Kmart over Wegmans during my limited time there, a decision I don't regret even if others probably think I made the wrong decision, lol.

      There are some other supposedly nice chains not far from Florida like Harris Teeter (I know there is that one in Florida, which I'm sure has been tempting AFB with calls to go Krogering, lol) and maybe even some of the nicer Ingles stores. These aren't cult favorites, not quite like Publix at least, but I can see Harris Teeter type shoppers going to Publix and not being all that impressed, especially if Harris Teeter's pricing has become more Krogerized in recent times (though I'm not sure if that is the case). I can see people obsessed with low prices not being impressed at all with Publix and Winn-Dixie, but at least those people can look forward to the Aldification of The Beef People even if few others are excited about it.

      I very much liked Publix during the only visits I ever made to them in 1997, but that was a different era of Publix in terms of decor and store design (artificial skylights, etc.). Publix felt like our Randall's stores at the time, but also different enough that it wasn't 'just' Florida's version of Randall's. The competition in Florida was a bit more serious back then so maybe the sticker shock factor wasn't as high back then as it would be now.

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    4. The complaints are more from forums and comments on news media social media posts than from people I know in real life. It's primarily Wegmans fans with a little bit of Kroger fans given that much of our inbound population is from the Northeast and Midwest.

      People claim Publix doesn't have competition. But then when you shop there and get the survey request on your receipt, it asks what other stores do you shop. It lists 30 stores and has an "other" slot where you can type your answer. While there is legitimacy to the claim of a lack of middle-market, conventional grocery in Florida, that is not true in the other 6-7 states where Publix operates. With the exception of Lucky's Market, Publix has co-existed with every store that has made a play in Florida in the past decade or so. And we know how Lucky's Market turned out... Publix of course isn't infallible, but I don't think the decision makers are airheads.

      I am familiar with H-E-B and a few other stores in the Houston area. H-E-B is a great store with its perks and drawbacks.

      I haven't been to a Wegmans either. When I look for it, I do see comment wars between fans of H-E-B and Publix. "That Englishman in Texas" on Reels, TikTok, and YouTube made a critical Publix video recently. I thought he and some followers got a lot of stuff wrong, but there's no point in correcting them on a month old video, because no one will see it lol.

      If this comment wall is still active, maybe I can post some of my critiques here.

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    5. Anonymous in HoustonSeptember 2, 2024 at 9:44 PM

      Part I:

      Fan, I watched the video you referred to from the English HEB fan and I had a good laugh about it. Here are my thoughts:

      A) The Publix they appeared to be at is a newer one with nEvergreen decor. This is almost a worst case scenario to judge a Publix by, a cold and sterile one versus a more beautiful Publix like the one in this post. The 'selfie' camera angle probably didn't help as it mostly showed the ugly open ceiling and Disagreeable Gray paint. With Publix, from the top of the shelves down, they still look good from what I can tell, but they need help with the parts of the store from the top of the shelves up. HEB decor generally looks terrible throughout, except for the bakery decor, so this is hardly a win for HEB.

      B) The bigger HEBs generally have two entrances with one opening to the produce department, not unlike a Walmart (the Walmart-HEB similarities don't end there). I doubt produce is far from Publix' entrances so I really don't understand why this is a big deal?

      C) HEB has gone big into the take-and-heat meal plate things in recent times, but they've also downsized their hot delis. Some HEBs are better than others. Houston ones rarely have BBQ, but Dallas and South Texas ones sometimes do have it. A few Rio Grande Valley HEBs even have Chinese food, but that is contained to just a few locations on the border. I can't say what Publix has aside from Pub Subs (which weren't mentioned at all in the videos), but Publix' hot delis can't be worse than the average Houston HEB. By definition, Publix' almost have to be better by default given that our HEBs just don't have very much!

      D) Publix may have killer Boar's Head deli meat, but then so do the nicer HEBs. This isn't an advantage either way.

      E) I will admit the Publix produce displays at the store in the video looks a bit basic, but then HEBs have almost the exact same set up. I assume Publix has produce misters so I don't know what he's talking about there.

      F) In terms of meat, this is an area of strength for HEB. They have a lot of specialty cuts of meat. The quality of the meat isn't anything special, but it isn't bad either.

      G) HEB's fish is less remarkable and, in 2000s era stores, the fish departments are poorly ventilated and make that whole side of the store smell fishy (and good fish shouldn't smell fishy anyway). The ventilation issues are fixed in 2010s+ stores at least. I can't speak for Publix' fish and store odors.

      H) HEB has a lot of store brands. Yes, that is true, but they are also lacking in national brands. They just don't sell a lot of stuff. They may have one or two national brands in a given section, but often only the basic variety of it. To get anything else, you have to buy HEB brand something. HEB brand stuff is usually of good quality, but if you want name brands here in Houston, you go to Kroger or Randall's. I take it Publix is national brand heavy, something most people would probably prefer (I know things are a different with the Costco/Sam's Club, Aldi, and Trader Joe's lovers who love store brands, but this hardly describes everyone...)

      I) HEB is cheaper than Publix, there is no doubt about that.

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      Part II:

      J) This is the elephant in the room which was not mentioned at all in the video. Publix stores are not chaotic at all, from what I can tell. There are so many of them in a given area that they don't seem to get packed. The stores are designed at least fairly well to avoid congestion and they aren't full of 'personal shoppers' (online order fillers) aggressively rolling huge carts down the aisles and pulling stuff off the shelves without consideration of the actual in-person shoppers.

      HEB is the complete opposite, especially in most of Houston where they use a regional store model as opposed to the neighborhood store model of Publix and Kroger/Randall's here. The parking lots are mad houses, even worse than Walmart, and the stores are clown cars. The stores are big because they have to be to hold the big crowds! To get an apple or something, you have to fight through lines of crowds, often full of the less classy population and/or families who flock to HEB for low prices (Randall's is the place to go for a Publix-like atmosphere in Houston, the Randall's crowds are mostly blue hairs, women in yoga pants during the morning/early afternoon, and men in business attire in the late afternoon/evening).

      K) I can't speak for Publix, but HEB is the place to go if you like a rusty cart where each wheel is pulling in a different direction. Admittedly, Kroger is just as bad, if not worse, in this regard.

      L) Maybe not every HEB is like this, but the two near me have salesmen for the local power suppliers and cable companies (AT&T, NRG Energy, etc.) who pay HEB to hawk customers to try to get them to switch utilities. They are aggressive too, they won't take no for an answer and you have to act like you're going to slap them to get them to back off. Maybe the Englishman considers this to be the kind of friendly interaction he likes, but I sure as hell don't.

      I didn't even get into HEB's anti-competitive practices, such as squatting on real estate. But, anyway, HEB has a few things going for it, but there is a high price to pay for their low prices. If someone wants a chaotic warehouse store experience and low prices, I suggest Costco/Sam's Club and then topping off smaller items at Aldi rather than shopping at HEB because then the prices will be even lower than HEB and there will be plenty of good quality store brands. If you want shopping to be a pleasure, like what Publix is going for, people here in Houston go to Randall's or Kroger. Kroger is less pleasureful than Randall's, but cheaper and there are just a whole lot more of them. They're still better than HEB and perhaps even cheaper if you are willing to jump through Kroger's promotional hoops (and not much more than HEB if you don't play the promotional games).

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    7. We seem to agree on many things. To others reading this, don't get me wrong. I've been to 2-3 suburban Houston H-E-Bs several times that can't be older than 10 years with one being less than 5. It's a great store and I see why people love it. I just think some of the comparisons are misguided.

      Regarding the video:

      1. This seems to be an older Publix (c. 2000+) refreshed with the Evergreen decor. A pressure wash and fresh paint can make Florida building exteriors look brand new. The interior layout is the most common one —typically, you won’t see produce right when you walk in but rather BOGO promotions and sports/seasonal displays. Like you, I don't see why this is a problem.

      2. H-E-B tends to display a LARGER quantity of each item they sell. So, if Publix has 15 one-pound bags of Brussels sprouts on display, H-E-B has 70 on display. Across the store, this difference in quantity makes H-E-B’s selection seem broader, but it isn’t as vast as claimed, especially down the aisles. You're spot on about their quantities of national brands.

      3. His comments about Ready Meals were misleading. Publix offers heat-and-eat items in the deli area and oven-ready meals in the meat department, ranging from single serving meals to meal kits. H-E-B tends to place this up front near produce and the bakery. He left off all of the grab-and-go salads, sandwiches, etc. Publix sells. YMMV based on the store's location though. He does win the argument about quantity.

      4. H-E-B's produce department is more expansive than Publix, mostly by offering more of a comprehensive selection of organics and again, the quantity thing. Publix's produce department looks very small in comparison, but they sell the things people here buy.

      5. Store Brands: The only category where I think Publix goes all out on is ice cream. Other than that, they have *a* store-brand BBQ sauce, *an* answer to Lay's Potato Chips, etc. Not a full line of BBQ sauces and chips. I think they emphasize having the national brands. If I see an ad for some branded food product, Publix likely sells it.

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    8. 6. Publix offers a variety of prepared foods depending on the neighborhood in which it is located. Sub, salads, wraps, the hot foods case with fried chicken, mojo pork, and side dishes are standard along with sushi and soup. Higher-end locations do offer more of that "grocerant" experience with more expansive options.

      7. The claim that Publix has a small amount of sushi and no sushi chefs like H-E-B is wholly inaccurate. A uniformed sushi chef was visible right behind him! Tourists might not know, but you can custom order sushi, among other things, at Publix. But H-E-B has "more," because of the quantity thing.

      8. Publix removed its meat cases, even in upscale stores. I don't think the demand was there. Again, tourists or transplants may not know this, but you can always ring the bell at the meat department window for them to break packages and to give you half of the roast or whatever. H-E-B, being in Texas, emphasizes beef and displays it well, which makes sense there, but it's not as relevant in Florida.

      9. He didn't mention this, but commenters did. "H-E-B has fresh tortillas" or any other special Mexican-focused offering is not a flex over Publix. Florida's Mexican population is only 15% of the Hispanic population, compared to over 60% nationwide. But Publix and Winn-Dixie do have fresh and center store niche products that cater to the Latino cultures we DO have.

      10. Another comment: “H-E-B does a lot of community outreach, especially after hurricanes.” Publix and other companies do too; they just don’t run TV ads about it every other commercial break.

      11. "H-E-B is so big:" Put normal quantities of items on display, get rid of the Walmart/Target size kitchenware and small appliances section, pare down the CVS/Walgreens size OTC, personal care, and makeup department, and ditto for other non-food departments and H-E-B is not much bigger than the stores here. As I learned through this blog post, not building overly large stores has been part of Publix's culture since at least the 1970s.

      12. Yes, H-E-B wins on price.

      In conclusion, he could have had a different impression of Publix visiting another location. That's the downside to Publix. They have vastly different offerings based on the neighborhood. I have my "regular" Publix that is similar to the video that is 3-5 minutes away. Then there's an "elevated" Publix 10-15 minutes away. So, when a tourist visits the first one they see, it may not be an "elevated" one that would legitimize the hype. In contrast, pictures and videos I've seen of Wegmans seem pretty similar in their perimeter offerings. The other H-E-Bs I've seen from the street seem to be the same size as ones I've visited, presumably offering a similar experience.

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    9. Fan,

      Those are some good observations about HEB, at least the 'nicer' HEBs. HEB is, as you describe, a 'stack it high and sell it cheap' store. They are high volume stores who fill the shelves with products and sell it cheaply. Because of this high volume model, the stores naturally have to be big to fit that type of inventory on the shelves and to hold the insanely large crowds necessary to make a high-volume model work.

      Now, it should be said that Market Basket in New England also uses a high-volume model to sell stuff very cheaply, but their stores don't look like a Home Depot either. Instead of putting huge quantites of items out on the floor, they put an amount similar to a Publix, but they constantly restock the shelves throughout the day. This has pros and cons, the main con being that it requires the stockers to constantly have their stocking carts out in the aisles throughout the busiest parts of the day which can lead to aisle congestion given the high volume. Still, it's better than the other types of congestion HEB has.

      You talk about the different kinds of Publix, but HEBs vary a lot more than Publixes do. There are really, really bad HEBs in places like San Antonio, Central Texas, and the RGV which that videomaker will never film and send to the home country as an example of how great HEB is or else the people in the home country will think he's gone off to some developing country. Even my local HEB, which is in a building which formerly housed the beautiful Randall's #35 (I did a guest blog post at HHR about the Randall's last year), is pretty crummy. The area is solidly middle-class, and there is a nice Kroger Signature store across the street which is, like the HEB, 60k sq. feet. The HEB makes 60k feel like 30k though because the store is missing departments like cosmetics (it does have a pharmacy though) and the deli is very basic, even by HEB standards. They do have all kinds of cuts of meat, but that might be the only redeeming factor other than the low prices. The floor and displays are embarrassingly bad. What isn't visible is that this store has even fewer national brands than a 'big' HEB, and that's saying something! Link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/EJq4JhhVMKw7Ap5i8

      The point about HEB's community service is laughable, but I hear it a lot from HEB fanatics. HEB does try to reopen after storms as soon as possible, but then so does Kroger and Randall's. There really isn't any difference between them in that regard. All have supply chains out of the area who can keep stores stocked during storms and so forth. Furthermore, ask the people of Galveston how HEB treated them after Hurricane Ike in 2008, a storm which wiped out a lot of the areas in and especially near Galveston Island. Kroger and Randall's re-opened as soon as possible and remain there still ready for the next emergency. HEB closed their Galveston store just a few months after Ike and hasn't returned yet. Now, granted, the HEB there was a smaller, older store in an old Safeway, but they just flat out left a storm-prone area when their competitors did not (Walmart is also nearby). Some kind of community service, eh?

      As we've established, HEB does do some things well, and they are a cheap place to shop if one is willing to put up with the experience. That said, much of their following is from a sense of 'Texas exceptionalism,' that everything is better in Texas because it is Texas. This Texas exceptionalism really sells to outsiders even more than native Texans like myself. But, anyway, HEB's market share in Houston is about the same as Kroger and Walmart's. If HEB is so great, why are about as many other Houstonians shopping at Walmart and Kroger when, especially the latter, is perceived as being more expensive? And, of course, we're talking about Kroger here, not Wegmans or Market Basket! Even if HEB's market share in Houston is 33%, and I don't think it is that high, that still means 2/3rds of the business is going elsewhere...and for good reason!

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    10. The Google Maps link you shared is smaller on the outside than any H-E-B I've seen from the street in Houston. However, from the pictures, it still looks very large on the inside. But that could be the illusion created by the very tall ceilings. Someone (maybe you), posted a link to a small town H-E-B on here a long time ago, and viewing that was surreal to me because that looked like a regular-to-me 40K sq ft grocery store and didn't fit the reputation. But I'm sure there are some older Wegmans locations in upstate NY that don't make it onto social media posts and YouTube tours as well.

      I agree with what you say about "Texas exceptionalism." In Florida, we hear it from former New Yorkers *and* Texans. I'm not a Florida fanboy, but it gets a little annoying to hear people move here and talk about how much better everything is "up North" or "back in Texas."

      Breaking news today is that Publix just bought property next to Disney. Hopefully they'll build the latest version of their flagship model there with its hot bar, cold bar, sushi/ramen/bowls, Pours, pizza, the Chipotle-like station along with the usual standard prepared foods so more tourists go to the "right" one when they are here. :-)

      I enjoyed this conversation.

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    11. @AiH - Yes, that was the Fort Pierce Kmart I linked to!

      Publix’s isn’t immune to the NIMBYs either, but Publix was quite persistent in getting this store built! It all worked out at least, as this was a top performing Publix store for most, if not all, of its 47-year run (unlike some of Albertsons’ delayed stores, which ended up being flops in the end). At least Publix wasn’t going up against Mama Harper herself with the building of this store, as she would have put up a much bigger fight than these possible distant cousins did! :)

      That is a good point about this Food World being a “litmus test”, considering what happened with Greenwise (both times) and Publix Sabor too – if any of the crazy new ideas flopped, it would only be the sub-brand that was tarnished, not the main one, and Publix could let the sub-brand become nothing more than a distant memory time would forget existed. Publix probably felt it made no sense to create a new name specifically for this new prototype, so they just shoved it under their existing Food World sub-brand and waited to see what happened.

      Even though this store was updated, even following the modernizations in the 2010’s, it seems like a lot of that 1970’s aesthetic came back in a way, with the brown and orange painted walls and the brown ceiling. I can understand the comparison to Lifestyle v2, as that décor was famous for its dark feel and use of earth tones. While I’ve never been to a Lifestyle v2 Safeway, my understanding was those stores were a bit darker originally than the remaining ones are today, following lighting upgrades Albertsons did following the merger. The lighting in the Publix seemed more on-par with a Lifestyle v2 store with the current lighting systems from Albertsons.

      I only know of two other O.G. Wilson locations that used the “Wilkor” name, so I don’t think it ever became all that widespread (as helpful as that would have been to differentiate from H.J. Wilson, but then again, Florida had two different chains called “Food World” too – Publix’s and Bruno’s!). Wilkor was basically what Service Merchandise was trying to go for in the late 1990’s, although it doesn’t look like the new format was of much help for either chain.

      Office Depot #12 – that one must have taken over the old Safeway not long after they pulled out of Houston. Those office supply chains were jumping randomly all over the country when they expanded in their early days, much like how the WORKplace chain I discussed in a post earlier this year began in Florida and then jumped to California to open stores as their first expansion! I like how the old Safeway sign frame survived all these years, and hopefully Office Depot’s replacement will preserve that sign frame.

      One of the malls near me, Merritt Square, has a China Max too. China Max seems to be a loosely organized chain, although I don’t know if there was an official corporate entity at one time who left behind rogue franchisees or if these location are still tied together somehow. I’m sure the Lakeland China Max (which appears to have since gone out of business) was somehow related, so I’d have to imagine there was a connection at one time (unless “China Max” is to Chinese restaurants as the name “Food Town” is to grocery stores?).

      The situation with Kelly’s Cajun Foods at Crossgates Mall is just weird! I wonder if Kelly’s Cajun Foods was the former tenant in that space before the pseudo-China Max appeared, and the owners didn’t want to bother changing the signs, and just went with the name (even though it was totally unrelated to the food they wanted to sell). Hopefully people realize lo mein isn’t Cajun food, or else they’ll be really shocked if they ever take a trip to New Orleans!

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    12. @Fan - Like AiH mentioned in his comment, given Publix’s spotty track record with sub-brands, it almost seems like Publix designed these brands as something disposable, using them as an R&D department to see what could be incorporated into the main stores before letting them wither away. I remember reading about Publix’s failed first foray into grocery delivery, and that was certainly too early for that concept (as other chains experienced similar results with pickup and delivery initiatives at that time). It’s quite interesting how much of a threat Publix felt from Lucky’s, installing the new meat counters and reviving Greenwise into a near clone of Lucky’s. Had Lucky’s not collapsed Publix probably would have kept Greenwise 2.0 around longer than they did, but most likely we would have seen the same result in the end, just a few years further out. Publix never really seemed to know what to do with Crispers either, and I’m surprised they never tried an in-store Crispers counter (especially since one prototype store in Sarasota had a Carrabba’s To-Go counter installed in it around 2002-ish, right around the time Publix bought into Crispers).

      And to add a quick thought to the HEB/Publix/Wegmans discussion, while I’ve never been to an HEB, I have been to Wegmans, and I’d have to say Wegmans is essentially a blend of Publix and how you both described HEB. Wegmans has the big destination style stores with a heavy emphasis on house brands at a low price (like HEB), while also adding the Publix “touch of class” with gourmet options thrown in too, more service operations, a classier feel compared to a more warehouse-like shopping environment, and heavy staffing. Where Wegmans differs from Publix and HEB is Wegmans’ large emphasis on fresh departments and prepared foods, with most Wegmans stores (at least pre-COVID) having large self-serve bars for Chinese food, salad, Italian food, olives, etc., a hamburger stand, a sub shop, pizza, and so on. I’ve heard some of this was scaled back post-COVID, causing a bit of anger from shoppers, but I don’t know if more has been restored following the backlash (as I haven’t been in a Wegmans since pre-COVID times). Publix’s fresh and prepared offerings are pretty basic in most stores, and as both of you mention, that isn’t HEB’s area of expertise either.

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    13. Anonymous in HoustonSeptember 7, 2024 at 1:15 AM

      AFB, regarding Office Depot #12, you're correct that it opened in March 1988, right around the time that Safeway sold their Houston stores to what became AppleTree (the stores continued to use the Safeway name under agreement until they could find a new name and a branding strategy, which didn't happen until 1990).

      That said, Safeway wasn't still in that building in 1988 and the story there involves another grocer who failed in Florida, Grand Union. Grand Union owned Weingarten's here in Houston and they had a location, with a classic Weingarten cathedral design, across the street from that Safeway. When Grand Union decided to leave Houston in around 1984, they sold the majority of their locations, including that one, to Safeway. Safeway moved their existing store to the Weingarten's location and that Weingarten's Safeway then eventually became AppleTree until AppleTree sold it to Fiesta Mart, which is what it continues to be today.

      So, yeah, it was Grand Union failing in Houston which allowed for Office Depot to pick up the space to open their first Houston store! Quite a few of Office Depot's original Houston stores are in former supermarkets including one in my area which is in a former Kroger Superstore I which made the news here for having a rodent infestation not long after it opened in the 1970s and so Kroger replaced it with a Superstore II location down the street before the original location was even a decade old, lol. The Office Depot there is still open, for now at least. It was just renovated in 2020 so maybe it'll be around for a while, hopefully. It has plenty of mice, only computer mice...hopefully!

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  2. Publix #356 was a nice store with an incredible run.

    Pharmacy #356 remains in operation. It relocated into a temporary storefront location. (Former GreenWise Market) Publix #1659 does not have a Pharmacy.

    I wonder if Publix #223 could be in line for a tear down rebuild.

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    1. It sure was!

      I wouldn’t be surprised if #223 was on Publix’s radar for replacement considering its similar age and design to #356. A quick scan of news articles isn’t showing anything right now about any replacement activity at that site, but Publix is working on other projects in the area, so it would be a store to keep an eye on.

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  3. The Publix at the Market at Southside in Orlando (2873 S Orange Ave) has a Chinese food station. That's the only one I've encountered in the Orlando area, and it's still going strong. I was told that the one in Tallahassee on Ocala and Tennessee St. (aka Club Publix) has one. According to Google Reviews, it's still in operation.

    On another note, it's sad that the Apron's station went away during COVID only to never come back and then the cooking school as well a couple of years later, both without much or any buzz in the media. The cooking school was always one of those "someday" things I never got to. All that I can find in Orlando are cooking classes designed for kids. There is Sur La Table in Tampa.

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    1. It's actually been almost a decade since my one visit to the Market at Southside Publix, and now that you say that I can vaguely picture the Chinese Food counter on the side of the deli by the dining area. I must not have thought much of that counter back then. I really need to revisit that store one of these days, as that’s a really nice Publix overall. At least we know where 3 of those counters are/were, and I wonder if #356’s replacement will have the Chinese food counter reinstalled, especially since it’s still active at those other stores.

      I miss the Aprons counters too, and it’s sad that went away, as it was fun trying the different samples those offered. I never attending a cooking class either, but I did inadvertently get a tour of the cooking school at the Winter Park store a while back (I peeked inside the propped open door and the chef was inside. He saw me looking inside and invited me in for a tour while he set up for the class that evening). Publix ran the cooking schools for a good 20 years, so I can’t imagine they were that big of a failure, as Publix probably would have gotten rid of those classes much sooner than that if they were.

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  4. Thanks for doing such a deep dive on this store. I have family who live nearby and clearly remember it being Food World (long before I knew it was related to Publix). I never actually went into this store unfortunately. I will say there is something about a Publix without terrazzo floors that makes me irrationally angry.

    I'm interested to see what this new 62U prototype will look like. Publix had been moving away from the larger stores - mainly because they seem to have trouble filling up the space. A Publix near me that's up for replacement was going to be a 48M, but allegedly it's going to be a 55M store now. I heard this second hand, but apparently Publix is "no longer going to be building their current size store" from now on. I suspect something was lost in the game of telephone there, but it's worth keeping an eye on.

    Also - Hi Publixaurus Knight. Good to see you.

    (The Kmart you linked to with the avocado floors - I believe Kmarts with green flooring were originally Grants.)

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    1. You’re welcome! I think this post came out really well. I wish you were able to visit this store before it closed, as this was certainly one of the most unique Publix stores in Lakeland. While there are plenty of converted Publix stores out there with the tile floors, Publix stores intentionally built without one are certainly rare!

      I feel that if Publix is going to try anything new or different anytime soon, the opening of #2043 will be one of the best times to showcase it. The new Key Largo store that opened a few months ago was another one-off 60,000+ square foot store, but that one was basically a 54M with a few more aisles. Being this store is based off the 55M and replacing the old flagship, I feel there is potential of this one being a little more special when it opens compared to what we saw in Key Largo. There are a number of 55M stores in Publix’s queue to open in the next couple years, but it still seems like the 48M is the go-to default for most locations, as the 55M has a lot of premium features that would only make sense in higher-volume locations.

      Yep – that Kmart I linked to was indeed an old Grant’s!

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  5. Wow, that was a long post, but very well done! It is amazing how nice a supermarket from the late-1970's can look in 2024!

    It's crazy how some pesky neighbors managed to delay Publix' superstore plans, allowing Albertsons to bet them to their own state! I'm also sure that the angry neighbors wish they had settled for the $25,000 rather than just getting $1,123. Also, don't forget that the first Pub Sub was served in good 'ole #33 that I toured a few years ago!

    Thanks for the link to my posts on #150 & #721! It is interesting to read the article about the introduction of UPC codes and how much planning was involved in the rollout. Scanning a barcode today is something we shoppers are forced to do today and don't receive any training on!

    I see you spent a lot of time researching this store's past and seemed to do a good job hitting the highlights. Probably the strangest recent change was the fact that Publix swapped the pharmacy location with the HBC alcove, which seems like a lot of effort for a store's final remodel (and just a refresh, to boot). Regardless, I really enjoy visiting these "premium" early Sienna stores because the brown dropped ceilings create a great ambiance. There were unfortunately very few stores to begin with that received Premium Sienna, and even fewer today that haven't remodeled to Evergreen or closed. Publix #155 is the only one to come to mind that still had Premium Sienna, last I checked, and has a dropped ceiling.

    I've noticed the Chinese cuisine signs in photos of other stores, but never realized it was originally an outsourced venture. It sounds like it was similar to the limited rollout of Carrabba's restaurants in a Publix or two, but also doesn't seem that much different from Publix featuring wok stations in the larger 1990's stores.

    Interesting how this store received the 3-row variant of the standard Sienna seafood department tile. Most of the Premium Sienna stores I've seen got a different pattern with small circular tiles, leading me to believe that this store remodeled closer to 2012. The original Sienna aisle markers also use the "CM 2.5a" design with the numbered rectangle rather than the similar CM 2.0 variant with the circular number like the ones #721 had. The CM 2.5a markers first rolled out in Bamboo stores in September 2012. Finally, I can see the sushi counter next to the lobster tank in your original 2017 photo, just lacking any formal signage.

    Since you mention the orange stock photo in produce, it was very common for Publix to swap out the artichoke for the oranges during the circa 2019 Sienna refreshes. I've seen quite a few other stores with the oranges, meaning they all received a refresh or new installation around this time.

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    1. I'm beginning to doubt myself with regard to the 2011 bakery photo because it doesn't seem to line up with the 2012 timeline. I think the green paint on the deli wall is what lead me to believe the store already had Sienna, but I noticed that the ceiling outside of the bakery is still white, and as you mentioned, some of the fixtures are still old. It's quite possible that this store got a sans serif CM 1.0 remodel around 2007-2008, especially considering how there are sans serif aisle markers in the frozen foods picture. That's likely when the bakery was overhauled.

      Don't forget that 61M Publix stores have double-stacked checkouts like this! I also do believe that #782 in Tallahassee (Ocala Corners) has the Chinese food based on my one photo from 2022 showing that part of the store. I need to go back and give it a try!

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    2. Thank you! I knew this store was going to have one heck of a backstory, which was part of the reason why I kept pushing this post off for so long, as I knew it was going to be an involved one.

      The pharmacy swapping places really threw me off, as that was a lot of trouble and effort to go to not really change much. With the store closing only 5 years later, it doesn't seem like it was worth it in the end, but I guess when dealing with a special high-volume flagship location, Publix wanted this store to spend its final years at the top of its game. In addition to #155, this store's sibling #223 still has premium Sienna with the brown painted ceilings too, and is almost identical to #356 in most ways because of that (other than #223 still having the original customer service placement and bakery design).

      It is interesting how the Chinese Cuisine counters evolved, and it's interesting Publix chose to partner with a local entrepreneur for that venture rather than a bigger name like Panda Express (who's dabbled with supermarket locations). It's even more surprising Publix assumed control of the Chinese Cuisine counters and kept them going under their own watch (and still runs them too), so they must have been popular. I know on my visits here there were always people ordering from that counter, and one time a long line. It will be interesting to see if the counter comes back in some form when #2043 opens, as the 55Ms do have an Asian food component via the poke bowls in their little "food court" island.

      Publix swapping out cases when there isn't a remodel isn't unheard of, and I didn't even notice the white ceilings in the 2011 photo due to the glare from the lights. The other ca. 2010 photo of this store with CM 1.0 (the one of the Pharmacy) still shows the original Serif CM 1.0 signs on the wall. Being a fancy high-volume prototype, is there is chance this store got some kind of "CM 1.0" refresh (and not a full Sans-Serif remodel), or could have just piloted the new bakery design as a random one-off renovation in the late 2000's?

      I forgot about the weird front ends at the 61Ms - that's what I get for not having been in one of those in a while!

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    3. Oh, I forgot to mention this was the only time I've ever seen the photo of the oranges in produce too, which is why I thought that was a one-off like the welcome grapes!

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    4. Publix gave most 61M stores a SS 1.0 "refresh" in the late-2000's rather than ripping out CM 1.0 for CM 2.0. With that, I wouldn't be surprised if #356 had prototype 1.0 (with it being a deluxe store) and getting that Sans Serif Refresh in the late-2000's. It's highly likely that some of the OG 1.0 signs remained (like we see in Sienna refreshes). I bet that is when the bakery was remodeled as well.

      I bet you can find another store with oranges; I've seen quite a few in Georgia. Any of the post-2019 Sienna stores should have them.

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  6. I'm so glad you finally covered one of these ultra-rare Publixes.

    When I was a kid, my family lived in Homestead in South Dade County. We went to #223 shortly after it opened. I was only 7 years old, but I had enough awareness to know this looked different from any Publix I had seen before. I remember it had a restaurant and I thought that was unusual. A few months later, we moved to the Atlanta area, so I only went to #223 that one time.

    We moved to the Orlando area in 1989 where I have remained since. In 2006, I moved near-ish #227 in Apopka. It's not my regular Publix, but I have gone there a number of times. The first time I went there, I realized this was the same design as that store in Miami. The restaurant was gone, but architecturally they were the same. They have since added a vestibule where the carts are stored. It looks like #356 got the same treatment. Originally, there was a set of entrance doors that opened right into the store. To the left were some windows and then the exit doors near the cash registers. That was an unusual arrangement for Publix for the late '70's. The customer service desk was in the right front side of the store, where #356's cooking school entrance was added. It was moved to an island around the same time the vestibule was added.

    The restaurant area is now home to a rather expansive greeting card section and the floral department.
    Since Publix didn't have pharmacies in 1980, a pharmacy had been added at some point to the right rear of the store in a similar location to #356's last pharmacy, with the counter in the corner and a small section of health & beauty items between the counter and the meat department. Like #356, the rest of health & beauty is in one of the main aisles.

    I've long wondered what the story behind these two extremely rare layouts was. Were there any others? Why are they so rare? This post answered those questions.

    I have to say these stores still look very good. I like the tiered walls up near the ceiling with the hidden accent lighting. Sienna looks good in these stores. I'm guessing the Apopka and Miami stores won't ever receive an Evergreen remodel. At 44 years of age, #223 is by far the oldest Publix in the immediate area. In fact, I don't know of any 70's-era Publixes left in metro Orlando. With Publix now replacing stores built in late '80s and early '90's, surely, #223 is due for replacement.

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    1. I've been wanting to write about this store for a while, but I knew it was going to be a long post, so I kept pushing it off until now. Glad you enjoyed this post though, as I've always been intrigued by this Publix design too - it's definitely the rarest design of anything Publix has ever built themselves, and I'm glad I was able to answer all of your questions.

      Thank you for all the background from your own experiences shopping at #223 and #227 as well! I've never been to #223 in Miami, but I have been to #227 in Apopka once. It makes sense the current vestibules were added on, as other 1970's Publix stores opened right up into the main sales floor like these used to (just with these stores doing so in a more grandiose way). From looking at Google Streetview, #223 also has the same vestibule as #356 and #227, so that was one modification all 3 got, much like the addition of the pharmacies in the back right corner.

      As for the futures of #223 and #227, it seems like Publix could go either way with those stores. The fact that all 3 of these 1970's stores lasted until 2024 is impressive, as Publix seemed to consider them with a higher regard than the standard 1970's stores that have been nearly wiped away by replacements over the years. The more premium feel of these stores probably helped with their longevity, as none of them come across as "dated" like some of the few remaining 1970's Publix stores do. Since Publix has now decided to replace one of the three, the other two could be fair game for replacements, but I wouldn't rule out an Evergreen remodel either (as Publix may possibly see a little more life in those two "premium" stores). I guess we'll just have to wait and see, but certainly appreciate the uniqueness of #227 as it relates to the history of Publix!

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  7. I definitely agree with you about the brown ceiling -- it looks so much better than the white ceiling, which indeed made the interior look rather dated. With the brown ceiling and other renovations, though, this store looked amazing! I hate that it has closed, as I was super impressed with it from your photos. I guess in Publix's mind anything old must be replaced, but to me, this really fit the mold of what a flagship store should be. The exterior architecture looks stately and attention-grabbing, and the interior architecture similarly mirrors that and looks grand. The special features in this store elude to that status, too, from the Aprons school, to the tele-doctor partnership, to the Chinese food counter (man that food looks good! I'm definitely with the shoppers on hoping that returns in the rebuild). Even the unusual décor elements might owe something to that -- I liked seeing the grapes, oranges, and especially the "water" tile in seafood.

    Sounds like this store had plenty of special features in the past, too, which was all cool to read about. Absolutely loved that classic interior photo as well!! This store would have been a sight to see back then. As for the name choice, absent all the backstory here I'd be inclined to say Food World makes sense given all the new added amenities making this place "a world of food" as compared to your then-typical supermarket. However, since Publix had already used that brand on other, decidedly different locations by that point in time, it stands to reason that they wouldn't have expected customers to differentiate this store from that brand despite the wildly different presentations, so I guess that theory about just slapping the discount name in response to Albertsons' threat and too many other Publixes nearby is as good as any. (Of course, these days we know that Publix is no longer threatened by Albertsons and has zero qualms about having too many other Publix stores nearby, haha!)

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    1. Walking inside this store, you never would have guessed it opened in 1977! I've only been to this Publix 3 times, but it was such a pleasing store to walk around with the overall ambience. All the elements meshed together well - the brown ceiling, the tiered walls, the design of the decor, the color choices. This store was meant to impress, and it sure did! Even though the brown ceiling was a more recent addition, that really helped tie everything together. Publix probably could have run this store as-is for another 20 years and it still would have looked modern, which is why it is sad to know it's now gone. I agree the architecture of the exterior was unique and stately, much more so than its replacement will have (which uses a fairly standard version of the current exterior design). Unless Publix does something really weird, I don't see the interior living up to the grandness of the old store in terms of design either.

      Food World does sound like a better name for a premium store than a discount store, doesn't it? I guess since Lakeland didn't have a Food World yet, maybe they were hoping locals wouldn't be too familiar with the existing Food World stores and not think much of how the new store was nothing like the existing ones in Tampa and Orlando. If nothing else, Publix probably wanted to drive home the "value" aspect of the Food World name with Albertsons coming to town, especially if everyone thought of Publix as the expensive store already. However, no matter one's impression of Publix (and especially in Lakeland), Publix always comes out on top down here!

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